Sunday, February 17, 2008

The Drama of Cedarville, Shane Claiborne, and the "angry" bloggers


I am feeling sorry for Cedarville U. these days. In response to a swell of pressure from concerned parents, alumni, and bloggers, Shane Claiborne’s February 11th lecture to the students of Cedarville was canceled. According to Dr. Carl Ruby, “There was a tension between my desire to use this even to challenge students to take a closer look at a very important social issue, and the need to protect Cedarville’s reputation as a conservative, Christ centered university. There can’t be any confusion about our commitment to God’s Word and our historically conservative doctrinal position.” You can read more about it on this link to Christianity Today.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/februaryweb-only/107-22.0.html

From the blogger’s viewpoint, bringing Shane Claiborne to speak before the student body is unthinkable because his theology and leftist politics embodies the emergent liberal. In their mind, Shane’s conversations will only lead Cedarville students away from orthodox Christianity because they assume that the majority of them are not grounded in sound doctrine. Here is a typical blogger who apposed Shane Claiborne’s visit to Cedarville.

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?=cedarville

Reflecting on the Cedarville incident, Shane Claiborne blogged to the world that Christians should not fear disagreements, and invited the bloggers to have a public conversation, and share a meal or even communion together.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/godspolitics/2008/02/dont-fear-disagreement-by-shan.html

For the record, I do have some serious disagreements with some of Shane Claiborne’s theology, but I am going to side with him on this one. University students should be exposed to different faith perspectives than their own, especially since Cedarville concentrates a great deal of attention helping their students form a Christian world and life view, which in turn helps them discern truth from error. Then again, over the past few years, Cedarville has had a public relations nightmare such as the GARBC vote to disassociate itself from the university over its relationship with Ohio Southern Baptists as well as the controversy in its Philosophy and Bible department over the certainty of truth vs. assurance of truth.

Maybe the best way to handle a “controversial figure” like Shane Claiborne without appearing to compromise their historical doctrinal position would have been to invite Shane as part of a forum to discuss social issues that affect urban ministry. Include a few more urban ministry leaders that are more conservative in their theology, but who are as passionate about evangelism and social justice as Shane is. Let’s have a real “conversation” where we evangelicals, who hold to differing viewpoints, can actually talk to and with each other, rather than talking past each other.

At least Dr. Ruby didn’t get fired. In the early 1980’s, Grand Rapids Baptist College (now Cornerstone U) invited Tony Campolo for their Staley lecture series, but because of the public outcry from certain fundamentalist pastors, uninvited him and then fired the Dr. Veldt, who was responsible for the invitation.

5 comments:

Ken Silva said...

Joel,

You said: "Maybe the best way to handle a 'controversial figure' like Shane Claiborne without appearing to compromise their historical doctrinal position would have been to invite Shane as part of a forum to discuss social issues that affect urban ministry."

The point my friend Ingrid and others like me with ministries that Claiborne lovingly called "rogue" is that Cedarville didn't do offer any kind of disclaimer as to the skewed views of soteriology held by Claiborne.

As to students being "grounded" in their faith, there are evangelical leaders who can't see that what you'll read in the post below from Claiborne and Campolo is not the genuine Gospel of Jesus Christ:

Shane Claiborne and the Gospel of Goodness
http://www.apprising.org/archives
/2008/02/shane_claiborne_4.html

Joel A. Shaffer said...

Ken,

There are several ways to conduct a forum without compromising one's beliefs. A few years ago, at Grand Rapids Theological Seminary's talking points, they invited Brian McLaren to talk about the emerging church. Dr. Wittmer (a GRTS prof) and Dr. Ed Dobson (former pastor of Calvary Church in G.R.) followed McLaren, critiquing his premises. Then McLaren responded to their critiques followed by a round table discussion of all the speakers. Hear is the link to the event. http://grts.cornerstone.edu/resources/tpoints/fa05

Clearly, Wittmer and Dobson got the better end of the conversation and the people that came saw the flaws of the emergent church. GRTS didn't have to offer a disclaimer because truth stood up on its own. I believe the same thing could happen in a forum discussion. Who knows? Maybe we could learn something from Shane Claiborne as well.

As for his view of the gospel, during the next few weeks or so I will be working through some of Claiborne's theological premises on this blog site because he has had quite an impact (for both good and bad) on 21st century urban ministry.

blessings,

Joel

Anonymous said...

I gotta be honest Joel, stories like this and even the prior comments of your friend Ken are what are really giving me a hard time even participating in the evangelical church any more. Identifying right wing politics with Christian doctrine (they seldom match up actually other than on the 2 "BIG" issues), the separatist, cultist mentality of refusing to engage with anyone of a differing view point, and continuing resistance to social justice has made the conservative evangelical church increasingly irrelevant in society, and to myself personally.

Joel A. Shaffer said...

Derek,

Just for the record, I do not know Ken. He commented on this site..which I welcome. As for the "angry" bloggers, I've read their material quite extensively. They remind me of a "national enquirer" of Christian research and theology. Its tabloid material as our friend J.T. says. In some ways they have some of the truth, but their research seems spotty and they write with a slanted agenda. I understand your feelings because at times I feel the same way. I am praying that you will be the change in Memphis in the church.

Poop is Emergent Too said...

Unrelated side note: Don Veldt is a friend of mine and on the BGC board of Ministries with me...and I did not know that he got fired!

Related side note: The problem with Ken is that he is intellectually dishonest in some of his critiques so I never know if I can trust him in what he says...I mean sometimes it sounds good, but on the other hand he has a habit of either intentionally not telling the truth or being not very bright. Since I will assume he is bright. I would suspect the latter.

As a for instance this is a man who still insist that Mark Driscoll is involved with Emergent even though Driscoll has gone to great lenghts to distance himself and explain why. Driscoll was involved but separated for theological reasons. Driscoll is also one of the most effective critics of the Emergent movement...Ken of course ignores this. DA Carson sees it, Piper sees it, Keller sees it...but Ken refuses too...So Ken will quote 10 year old material to bolster his completely wrong point...really one has to ask, even when he seems right can one trust Ken?